[ietf78-tech] user/device authentication in maastricht
Randy Bush
randy at psg.com
Mon Jun 28 08:12:39 PDT 2010
[ second try. first, sent 20 mins ago, seems not to have made it to
list! ]
first, as russ says, we really do not know the requirements for
beijing. so we are shooting in the dark a bit.
but we never will. so we 'do the right thing.' this is actually fairly
normal stuff. we even did it at a few nanogs.
Q: is there an escape, i.e. if a user can not authenticate, is there an
ssid they can use for free?
A: no. then what would be the purpose of the exercise?
Q: is the authentication per user, i.e. enterprise not personal wpa2?
or is a global id sufficient?
A: per user or per device. otherwise one escaped regid lets a horde
of attackers in; well, out actually.
given the above, then how about the following scheme:
o id in maastricht is regid. current practice is that the user gets
it in their registration web page, in the response email, on their
receipt, and on the back of their badge.
for beijing, we should add redundancy within the number so one can
not just type in an N digit numeric string. the secretariat needs
to know this change to regid asap so they can prep systems and
software for beijing.
o authentication gets the user through a mac filter at the external
exit. without auth the user has access to internal ietf meeting
net.
o if the user can easily use wpa2 enterprise, then use IETF/regid as
the authentication and their device's mac is registered for the
week.
o if the user does not have wpa2 enterprise, or for some reason does
not wish to use it, they can go to an on-site http web portal where
they enter their regid and the device's mac is registered for the
week.
o if user does not remember their regid, wants identity privacy, or
has multiple devices, they can go to the registration desk and get
one or more paper slips out of a bag (other containers acceptable)
with pseudo-regids printed on them.
o one regid authentication gets one mac allowed. if the user wishes
to authenticate multiple devices, they must go to the reg desk and
draw from the bag. otherwise, the leak of one regid gives a horde
of attackers access.
o the web portal might also be a source of pseudo-regids, parallel to
the bag of paper slips. i.e. if the user has a regid, they can get
more regids for their other devices through the portal. the problem
here is that, if one regid escapes to the attackers, then it can be
leveraged to get many.
randy
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