<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Ciscos, I wouldn't call it a specialty of mine. But I can drive it. </div><div><br></div><div>DC Hilton, ahhh the pain!</div><div>I ran up above the ballroom with jy the meeting where we tested out Airespace for the first time. We found ancient secret service crypto gear up there. That is also the meeting I had to shimmy along a drain pipe the length of a room cause there was no drop ceiling and feed fiber through a wall with a broom handle.</div><div><br></div><div>Sadly that all is still way better then the "Ice Dogs Arena" next to the Long beach convention center. I can only even talk about that after people have bought me lots of drinks. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Such good times. </div><div><br></div><div>Alice</div><div> <br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 25, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Chris Elliott <<a href="mailto:chelliot@pobox.com">chelliot@pobox.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>"Not cisco gear..."--meaning not cisco gear in the past or do you break out in hives if you touch cisco gear and won't be useful? :-)</div><div><br></div><div>We could have used you in the Washington Hilton! Who would have thought that above the domed ceiling of the ballroom would have been filthy--and secret service tape everywhere.<br><br></div><div>Chris.<br><div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Chris Elliott</div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Jun 25, 2010, at 5:10 PM, Rob Nagy <<a href="mailto:rob@deepdivenetworking.com"><a href="mailto:rob@deepdivenetworking.com">rob@deepdivenetworking.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>For those who don't know me... Jim means my specialty is jamming gear in ceilings and crawl spaces, and other locations not designed for gear. Preferably with a drain pipe I have to shimmy across. Not cisco gear...<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 25, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Jim Martin <<a href="mailto:jim@daedelus.com"></a><a href="mailto:jim@daedelus.com"><a href="mailto:jim@daedelus.com">jim@daedelus.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Also, Rob Nagy has already volunteered to do this install ... it's a bit of his specialty ;-)<div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- Jim</div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 25, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Chris Elliott wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Geert,</div><div><br></div><div>We'd be using the 3560-E PoE switches in this location. Here's the physical specs:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: 13px; "><table border="1" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="80%" bordercolor="#ADADAD" id="wp9000017table4000002"><tbody><tr align="left" valign="top"><td colspan="2" rowspan="1"><a name="wp9000358"></a><p class="pChart_bodyCMT" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; margin-left: 3pt; margin-right: 3pt; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0pt; text-transform: none; margin-bottom: 3pt; margin-top: 3pt; ">3560E-48PD</p></td><td colspan="5" rowspan="1"><a name="wp9000360"></a><p class="pChart_bodyCMT" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; margin-left: 3pt; margin-right: 3pt; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0pt; text-transform: none; margin-bottom: 3pt; margin-top: 3pt; ">1.75 x 17.5 x 18.1"</p></td><td colspan="2" rowspan="1"><a name="wp9000365"></a><p class="pChart_bodyCMT" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; margin-left: 3pt; margin-right: 3pt; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0pt; text-transform: none; margin-bottom: 3pt; margin-top: 3pt; ">4.45 x 44.5 x 46.0 cm</p><div><br></div></td></tr></tbody></table></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); font-size: 13px; "><table border="1" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="80%" bordercolor="#ADADAD" id="wp9000017table4000002"><tbody><tr align="left" valign="top"><td colspan="2" rowspan="1"><a name="wp9000438"></a><p class="pChart_bodyCMT" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; margin-left: 3pt; margin-right: 3pt; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0pt; text-transform: none; margin-bottom: 3pt; margin-top: 3pt; ">3560E-48PD</p></td><td colspan="5" rowspan="1"><a name="wp9000440"></a><p class="pChart_bodyCMT" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; margin-left: 3pt; margin-right: 3pt; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0pt; text-transform: none; margin-bottom: 3pt; margin-top: 3pt; ">19.2 lbs</p></td><td colspan="2" rowspan="1"><a name="wp9000445"></a><p class="pChart_bodyCMT" style="color: black; font-family: Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; margin-left: 3pt; margin-right: 3pt; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; text-indent: 0pt; text-transform: none; margin-bottom: 3pt; margin-top: 3pt; ">8.75 kg</p></td></tr></tbody></table></span><div><br></div><div>From:</div><div><br></div><a href="http://cisco.biz/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7078/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bac22.html"></a><a href="http://cisco.biz/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7078/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bac22.html"></a><a href="http://cisco.biz/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7078/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bac22.html"><a href="http://cisco.biz/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7078/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bac22.html">http://cisco.biz/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps7078/product_data_sheet0900aecd805bac22.html</a></a></div><div><br></div><div>So they're 1 RU, but deep and a bit heavy. However, I think we can get them up there--we've had worse challenges, believe me! And the benefits are various:</div><div><br></div><div> - No need for injectors</div><div> - Known switch</div><div> - Same as other switches in network</div><div> - Our management is already set up<br><div><br></div><div>Let me know if you think it will be impossible or extremely difficult to transport these switches up there.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Chris.</div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Chris Elliott</div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Jun 25, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Geert Jan de Groot <<a href="mailto:geertj@nsrc.org"></a><a href="mailto:geertj@nsrc.org"></a><a href="mailto:geertj@nsrc.org"><a href="mailto:geertj@nsrc.org">geertj@nsrc.org</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span></span><br><span>What's the specs (size, weight) of the PoE-switches that you plan to use</span><br><span>for SER2? The access hole to that rack is really small and cramped,</span><br><span>and I do wonder if we can use the existing HP4000 (for which we'll</span><br><span>have full access, including mgmt) and loose power inserters</span><br><span>instead of another PoE-switch that we'll need to lift to the ceiling.</span><br><span></span><br><span>There is plenty of space in the rack. The challenge will be to</span><br><span>bring the equipment through the ceiling hole.</span><br><span></span><br><span>SER2 is *above* the door at picture</span><br><span><a href="http://psg.com/~geertj/ietf78/pics/expohal/tn/IMG_5590.JPG.html"></a><a href="http://psg.com/~geertj/ietf78/pics/expohal/tn/IMG_5590.JPG.html"></a><a href="http://psg.com/~geertj/ietf78/pics/expohal/tn/IMG_5590.JPG.html"><a href="http://psg.com/~geertj/ietf78/pics/expohal/tn/IMG_5590.JPG.html">http://psg.com/~geertj/ietf78/pics/expohal/tn/IMG_5590.JPG.html</a></a></span><br><span>Open the door, find a small, cramped room, step in, bring down</span><br><span>temp aluminium ladder, climb ladder, which is a bit of a challenge.</span><br><span></span><br><span>"bring old clothes".</span><br><span></span><br><span>SER1 and SER3 is not nearly as difficult.</span><br><span></span><br><span>GJ</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>ietf78-tech mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com"></a><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com"></a><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com"><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com">ietf78-tech@daedelus.com</a></a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech"></a><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech"></a><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech"><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech">http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech</a></a></span><br></div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br>ietf78-tech mailing list<br><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com"></a><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com"></a><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com"><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com">ietf78-tech@daedelus.com</a></a><br><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech"></a><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech"></a><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech"><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech">http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech</a></a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>ietf78-tech mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com"></a><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com"><a href="mailto:ietf78-tech@daedelus.com">ietf78-tech@daedelus.com</a></a></span><br><span><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech"></a><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech"><a href="http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech">http://www.daedelus.com/mailman/listinfo/ietf78-tech</a></a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></body></html>